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Posted 09/12/2005 11:13:38
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I guess it's just a bit of a machismo thing..

"We jump out of planes and you float around in a tunnel a few feet from the ground" ..

The fact is that these are different sports entirely, One is for the rush of freefall and the spectacles of being so high up .. The other is for the sensation of flight which can be achieved in a much more cost effective and geared way in the tunnel. (I realise this is a generalisation .. But it's right, isn't it?)

I guess tunnel flying is a lot of different things to a lot of people, I like it cause it's something new and allows me to experience a totally new sensation, when I become a better flyer I will undoubtedly pick up some kind of competetive streak, cause you're right. It is a sport and thats what sport is all about. One football team trying to beat the other, one cricket team trying to score the most runs, etc ..

Competition is healthy if it's conducted in a sportsmanly way .. I see no reason why Tunnel Flying should be any different.


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Posted 09/12/2005 14:07:47


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Another great post! Whooooo our posts are starting to resemble forums

I know what you mean w. 'what to do next'? When I fly a ton in a day by the end I'm beat and out of ideas for sure.

The confines of a tunnel increases the degree of difficulty when compared to flying formations in the sky. Which, in my opinion, makes formation bodyflying in a tunnel a new and challenging sport in it’s own right. Similar to sky diving but different!


I totally agree, walls add a new element and create different challenges. I can't wait to be more capable hd so I can compete somewhere, anywhere.

I would bet that the top skydiving teams are just too busy to add more to their schedule. It's hard to work to take all that time off from your job to train, travel, and pay for it all. All of my friends down here that compete are already full beyond belief as far as their schedule goes. I can't speak for anyone but myself, however I think there is more to it than the top teams just not wanting to participate.

I so hope that tunnel flying becomes a sport in its own right. It is so exciting, fresh, and fun! Not to mention a great work out. 5 of us flew an hour last night doing mostly 4 way stuff and I'm so sore today. I don't think of tunnel flying as simulated skydiving but unfortunately, I think most skydivers do. Tunnel flying is bodyflight, if I could fly naked all the time I would. I hate having a suit, I hate having clothes under my suit because it makes me feel the air and my body less. I simply love to fly my body, when I started jumping again after my accident & 15 hours of tunnel, freeflying was fun but I had this big lug on my back. An adjustment which wasn't a big deal but I would still rather not have one on.

I wish more skydivers would see tunnel flying as its own entity. I think more jumpers would enjoy the tunnel because they would have better experiences and less expectations of their sky skills transfering to the tunnel.




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Paige Rudolph
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Posted 09/12/2005 16:58:31


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I still feel that there is reluctance on the part of skydiving teams to take part in the wind tunnel competitions, this is a shame since they are great fun and a real challenge to perform well.

I was under the impression that these previous competitons were comprised entirely of skydiving teams...   I don't think I've ever met a tunnel only person who does relative work well enough to BE competitive...except for one who is a former skydiver, (hope I didn't forget anyone) is this a different for you in Europe?  Are there alot of tunnel only flyers in Europe/France or something? 

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Posted 09/12/2005 17:00:33


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I learned of tunnels soon after I started skydiving in '99.  I admit, my first though was, "how hard can it be."  I thought that if I could skydive, then I would have no problem tunnel flying.  Everyone I knew that went to a tunnel kept saying how much fun it is and I kept thinking it was just a place to practice skydiving.  BOY WAS I WRONG!  The first time that I went to the tunnel in 2003, I was seriously humbled.  I consider myself a decent belly flyer and the first time I got in there, I bounced off the walls for almost my entire session. 

After that, I started taking it more seriously.  Flying in the tunnel is MUCH more challenging than flying in the air.  I have needed a coach to help me learn most everything that I can do in the tunnel.  After my most recent tunnel trip in which I attempted to freefly in the tunnel, I have a new respect for those who have put in the hours of training to become awesome tunnel fliers; it is NOT easy.  If only every skydiver could have the humbling experience that I did at the tunnel.  But don't get me wrong, I can still smile and have fun while bouncing off the walls!  I actually strongly prefer flying in the tunnel to skydiving.

Jenn

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Posted 09/12/2005 17:12:27


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Flying naked in the tunnel....now that would be a freeing experience.  I don't think I would recommend it in the cold or rain.  You know Paige, at some point, I am sure you can convince them to let you fly naked late at night.  I did my first freefall naked (free jump, drunk when agreed to it, long story) and it was interesting.

Jenn

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Posted 13/12/2005 17:52:06


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Next year Carrie is going to contact Hustler to see if they will match the total raised for TFTC 2006. They will also do a spread on us where we will get some hot shots on the ground and then fly at least topless (ugly pics I know but they have great touch up artists on staff).

Anything to save the boobies. We could have raised $10,000 this year if we had a sponsor to match our donations. We figure what's $5000 to Hustler.

We're also hitting up FPL (FL Power and Elec) to see if they will donate all of the tunnel time in 2006 since it would be great PR for them. We could then charge next to nothing for tunnel time and still raise tons of $$$$$.

Ah to dream...





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Paige Rudolph
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Posted 13/12/2005 23:41:32


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Who can say no to boobies flopping in the wind for charity!

Jenn

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Posted 17/01/2006 18:28:09
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Hello

You will find hereafter the rules I have designed to run the indoor 4way FS at Aerokart (International Challenge held since 2003).

If you have participated in the previous editions, I'll just tell you that we have raised the technical level for both the 4way and the 3way events this year. The 4way program is based on the FAI (see further), the 3 way program was designed form the 4way blocks and randoms (it will be publish the day of the event).

We have succeeded in having the French Federation of Parachutism (FFP) to recognize this discipline as official. We are currently working to get to the next step : the official recognition by the CIP at the FAI. We would aslo like to establish a World Tour for indoor FS competitions. Anybody interseted can get in touch with me manu @ veloce.fr

For those who have not heard of me, I will introduce myself : Manu Ars, former French 8way member, co-owner (with World Champion Martial Ferre) of the Veloce skydiving school in Gap (coaching, FS, wingsuit, wind tunnel etc) and elected at the French national board to represent the professional schools.

Indoor Formation Skydiving Rules

2006

4 way

1 – General rules

 

The general rules follow the rules described by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale for Formation Skydiving from airplane. It will be applied for any rule not described hereafter. In case of litigation, the decision will be made by the judges college.

 

2 – Rounds

 

The competition is run on 8 rounds.

 

3 – Sequences

 

Each round is judged on 15 formations following a sequence of 5 to 6 formations from the FAI program reduced as follow :

no block 1 - 8 - 13 - 20 / no random F - G - M.

 

4 – Training

 

Before sequence evaluation, each team has 60 seconds in freefall to train. Any overtime will be added as a penalty to the evaluation timing. During this training phase, no Star shall be presented since this formation marks the start of the competition sequence.

 

5 – Evaluation

 

Before the end of the 60 seconds of training, the team shall present a Star with solid grips. The evaluation timing will start at the release of the Star or at 3 seconds if the Star is held more than 3 seconds. The timing is calculated as the average of the judges timings.